president has said that medicare will die unless it is reformed? so if you're inclined toward that new deal liberalism, you will accept whatever joe biden had said. if you listen to paul ryan, and he was somewhat deferential, he said we have to amend it, we have to change it and here is how we will do it. >> a week after the first presidential debate, why is the president still talking about it? >> and that debate, what happened? >> gov. romney had a good night. i had a bad night. >> how bad? >> it is not the first bad that i have ever had. >> if the polls were to be believed, it was a bad, bad night. the president was still talking about a week later. checking the polls, pew, romney's performance erases obama leed.